The Central New York Bluegrass Association, Inc


To be held at the Weedsport Baptist Church - Cornerstone Coffee House Room - Liberty Street (just two blocks from the center of town), Weedsport, NY

Sunday, September 28, 2003 from 2-6 PM

Asking $6 and children 16 and under free with adult


This band is a favorite among bluegrass music fans as their "gathering 'round" the single microphone is reminiscent of the bands of days gone by. Their select songs are from old-time bluegrass bands such as Bill Monroe, Stanley Brothers, Red Allen and Flatt & Scruggs. Mark Orshaw on guitar and vocals; Stank Ink on banjo and vocals; Steve Tyron on string bass and vocals and the talented young Laura Orshaw on fiddle and vocals.

Come join us for an entertaining time. Refreshments available. "Stage entertainers" are urged to play between sets.

For more information: Jacqui McCarthy or 315-689-3545


Congratulations to the Festival Committee and everyone who worked so very hard to make the 5th Annual Apple Valley Bluegrass Festival a success. A lot of planning, working together and utilizing much time is what made this a success. You should ALL be very proud of yourselves.

Robert Hayden and Jack Burns, festival chairmen and "jack of all trades" did a fabulous job this year. Bob and Jack want to thank the following people for their participation:

Hazel and Red Smith - popcorn and ice sales
Gene and Eve Pritchard - popcorn and ice sales
Jeurgen Knauss - Parking and Gate
Mary Anne Burns - gate
Hope Shortslef - popcorn, ice, flea market and gate
Ed Campbell - Electric hook-ups, MY and use of popcorn machine
John Van Dusen - electric hook-ups
Maryan VanDusen - donating the afghan to raffle
Dave Nichols - donating the Martin guitar
Bill Light - vendors and gate entertainment
Tom Russell - stage and gate entertainment
Sam Murphy - trash and tables
Sarah and Dale Lyndaker - gate and Sarah as nurse
Carl Stump, Suzanne Privett and Marge - kids corner
Julie Higgins - signs and flea market
Marion LaMont - 50/50 and flea market
Dennis and Karen Crawford - Martin guitar raffle
John Warner and Linda? - autoharp raffle and grounds
Helen Weldon - headquarters table and renewals
Carol McGinley - headquarters table
Thayle Phair - publicity, and plaques
Sue Hayden - flea market
Mary Carr - flea market
Donna Walter - flea market
Peg and Joe Nolan - programs
Pete Carr - the bank, electric, selecting the bands and paying bands
Betsy Keough - pictures
John Crouch - pictures
Vern Loucks - MC and shelter set up
Joe LaMay - MC
Bill Knowlton - MC
Ray Crouch - open mic, gospel, square dance sound as well as CNYBA table
Bill & Maggie Anderson - donated autoharp for raffle
John Wilmot - program set up
Jacqui McCarthy - swept and cleaned barn for performers
Chris (Ed Campbellís friend) who helped with electric

And anyone I may have forgotten to mention

To all the vendors, LaFayette Apple Festival folks, Mathisonís Porta Pottys, Cortland Ice, Hillside Tent, Orchard Vali for golf carts, Hog Wild for food, Bob Treat for ice cream & Taste of Heaven Pizza.

Thanks again, Bob Hayden and Jack Burns


Many thanks to Helen Weldon for "taking notes" during the festival so the news could be brought back to you all in her Ramblin'. Also thanks to Helen for the most enjoyable Cd's and tape --- and thanks to Low Profile and James Reams for donating them. I really missed being there and visiting with you all. Thanks for all the kind words from members and friends. Thayle

On September 14 our meetings will resume. Please give your support to the Officers and Board Members and make your wishes known so that your organization can be successful. Congratulations to this yearís Officers and Board members.


Ray Decker - Chittenango, NY
Roger Edwards - Rome, NY
William J. Finch - Concord, NC
Joe Gurka - East Syracuse, NY
Les Hathaway - Syracuse, NY
John & Stacey McGregor - Dundee, NY
James Reams & The Barnstormers - Brooklyn, NY
Gordon M. Smith - Wellsville, NY
Ryan M. Smithó - Syracuse, NY

We are happy to have you as members of CNYBA.


James Reams and the Barnstormers are listed as one of the choices for the IBMA's Emerging Artist of the year award in the second round of balloting. Also, James Reams, Walter Hensley & The Barons of Bluegrass has been named as one of 7 choices for the IBMA's 2003 recorded event of the year award. The finalists will be announced in August and the winners announced in October. Good Luck to them!

Also, their schedule is as follows.
September 14 - gospel performance at church -10 AM, Matawan, NY and live Radio WFDU-FM at 4pm
Sept. 19-20 - 6th Annual Park Slope Ole-Time Bluegrass Jam., Brooklyn, NY
Sept 29-Oct 5., IBMA meeting, Louisville, KY
Oct. 18 - Country Corner Coffee House, Congregational Church Hall, So. Hadley, Mass.
Nov 22 - Lumber River Regional Bluegrass Assoc., Lumberton, NC


2003 Folkus Project Venue calendar:
Fri., Sept 12., Tracy Grammar, 8:00, $12, May Memorial
Sat., Sept 13, Terri Allard, 8:00, $10, Westcott Comm. Center.
Sat., Sept 14., Song Swap, 7:00, $5 at Happy endings
Fri., Sept 19, David Roth and Anne Weiss, 8:00, $10, May Memorial
Sat., Sept 27, Maria De Angelis, 8:00, $8, Happy Endings
Sat., Oct 4, Erica Wheeler, 8:00, $10, Happy Endings.
Sat., Oct. 11, Bill Morrissey & Denice Franke, 8:00, $15, Westcott Comm. Ctr.
Sun., Oct. 12, Song Swap, 7:00, $5, Happy Endings
Sun., Oct 12, Tony Trischka workshop, 2:00, $30: Concert 7:30, $15, Westcott Comm. Ctr.


The Apple Festival will be here on October 11 & 12 and, as in years past, if we offer to sell tickets at the gate and entertain for a few hours each day, we won't have to pay them the rent we owe them for holding our festival on their grounds------so, if you are interested in helping, please contact Bob Hayden (address, phone # & email address on second page).


I have two CD's to review this month: The first, James Monroe "The Way I Am", Raintree records, RT 1027, is solid, traditional bluegrass by Bill's son. The second one is by "The Larkins" Aud-CD-8165. This recording is intended for the country audience new to bluegrass and the ten cuts all have electric guitars, drums, pedal steel, electric bass as well as fiddle, dobro and mandolin. The singing is by the Larkin Sisters with Dolly Parton singing background on one cut. Peter Carr


Ray Decker from Chittenango who was the lucky winner of the dobro and Martin guitar has generously donated the two instruments back to the organization to be raffled off at our 2004 festival. What a generous offer, Ray - thank you very much.


Susan Hayden sends THANKS to all the people who donated items to the flea market at the festival and to all the people who worked. The flea market brought in $151.55.


Ramblin' with Helen By Helen Weldon

Our Editor, Thayle, asked me (in her absence) to take notes regarding festival activities while I worked at our CNYBA Headquaters table and incorporate them with my Ramblin -so folks, here goes:

First, Thayle, I can't begin to tell you everyone who stopped by to ask about you, if you were coming, and expressed their disappointment when I told them you weren't feeling "up to par" enough to be with us, the super job you are doing on the newsletter, was so sorry to read of your daughter's passing, etc, etc. Believe me, YOU WERE MISSED BIG TIME!!!

I arrived at the festival grounds about 11:30 Friday morning, picked up my arm band and program (the programs were super) and was escorted by our V. P. Jack Burns to my "home away from home" that was all ready including a stool to help me get into it. I shall be forever indebted to Ed Campbell for his offer to provide this for me. Ed, there are no adequate words to express my sincere thanks, not only for your thoughtfulness, but for our longtime friendship, but please do know that I do THANK YOU.

It was wonderful.....Our president, Bob Hayden soon arrived at the table with flyers, picture albums, the raffle tickets along with the Auto Harp donated by Bill and Maggie Anderson, and a box to deposit the suggestion forms from our programs.

With our very "special and dear friend" Vernon Loucks as MC, the music started right at 2PM with Black Diamond as the starting band and Gale Peabody doing the sound (what an excellent job he did). Every band in their own particular way entertained the filled tent of spectators with excellent music, non-stop until 10PM. I'm sure all present will agree our own Andy Pawlenko & The Smokey Hollow Boys can "standup" with the best!! You guys were awesome...and no Apple Valley Bluegrass Festival will ever be complete without you. I know it was a very difficult weekend for Andy, as he told us this was the first time his dear wife Ardy was unable to be present due to two cracked ribs which proved just too painful for her to come. Our thoughts and prayers are with you Ardy, and folks please send her a card or note to: 1092 County Rt. 85, Oswego, NY 13126.

The 50/50 winner was $77 richer, but no one got the name of the gentleman who had the winning ticket.

For some it doesn't take much to please them and the Handicap port-a-john was a super addition (at least as far as I was much more room, higher seat, etc.).

I fell to sleep listening to Jammin' by Low Profile not far from my window. I awoke Sat. morning to beautiful sunshine.

We were all saddened to hear that during the night our president's father had a heart spell and was taken to the hospital; so Bob was gone for a good share of the day. As things turned out, he was able to return home, and Bob we are all thankful for that.

During the day dedicated members went thru the crowd selling raffle tickets on the auto harp, guitar (donated by Dave Nichols), afghan made by Maryan VanDusen and another 50/50. At one time I observed our long time member Bradley Kuhl standing up with outstretched arms, and the fellow selling the tickets for the guitar unrolled them from one finger tip to the other; the number of tickets Bradley got for $20. Another time, the lady who "worked" the sales table for Billy Lee Cox & Mason Dixon Grass, extended one arm and those tickets cost her $10. Sad to say, neither of these folks were winners.

During one of the performances of the above mentioned band, 3 generations - grandfather, father and his 11 year old twin daughters entertained us with 2 fiddle tunes. What a fantastic job.

Also a highlight during the performance of Andy Pawlenko & The Smokey Hollow Boys in the afternoon, was when Fred Lewis, a legend in his own right and well-known WSCP personality joined them for several numbers.

The Sat. 50/50 winner received $112, but no name was gotten. The other raffle winners were: Afghan - Betsy Keough; Survey sheets - 2 advance tickets to the 2004 Apple Valley Bluegrass Festival to member Charlotte Noftsier of Cortland, and a 25th Anniversary CD to Vernon Bush of Marcellus. The winner of the auto harp and guitar was the same person - Ray Decker of Chittenango, who earlier that day became a member of our association. He said he wasn't a gambling man, but if I were him, I think I'd consider buying a lottery ticket!! Congratulations to all the lucky winners, but think one must admit the odds for what Ray Decker accomplished was one in a million!

Special thanks to all our MC's; Ray Crouch at our sales table; those who manned the Flea Market table, and those who sold raffle tickets - your efforts for a job well done resulted in a bit over $1,200 towards festival expenses.

At 7PM a quick storm came up but the show was able to keep going. Bill Szabo presented two very deserving people, Vernon Loucks and Andy Pawlenko, with the Annual Irene Thurston Awards.. Due to Lois Artlip being unable to be present, Pete Carr presented John VanDusen with the Bud Artlip Award for his many years of work and dedication to our association's purpose.

This ends my festival notes except for a subject which was the topic of conversation for many for both days - hiring some of the same bands year after year. Many of you (our president included) know I had expressed my opinion regarding the return of Low Profile again this year - not a good idea as felt we needed different bands to draw people back. Well, after observing the number of people crowding around their sales table before they even made an appearance on stage changed my mind (and I've also related this fact to our president). This only further backs up the comments made by many: "I'm back this year because Low Profile is here again and only wish that OneSong was too! There has been a band committee appointed and I can't urge you enough to attend our meeting on Sept 14th or make your wishes known to an officer or board member as to your thoughts on bands for 2004. Remember, this is YOUR Association; Its YOUR money that is being spent, so MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN.

Earlier in this "book" I mentioned the fact that Lois Artlip wasn't present. Lois hasn't been feeling "up to par" and was missed by all. I'm sure a card sent to 536 W. Swamp Road, Middlesex, NY 14507-9732 would brighten her days. I had some inquiries as to whether Bert and Alice Mehlenbacher were there and since they weren't, I called and found out that Bert has been having some inner ear problems thus being unable to drive. Folks, you were missed and they can be remembered at: 75 Zahler Track, Sandy Creek, NY 13145.

Another couple missed were Jerry and Peg Miller and I learned their absence was due to the passing of Jerry's Mother who lived out of state. Expressions of sympathy have been sent out and you can do so too: 6290 Pottery Road, Warners, NY 13164. Our Editor has not been feeling well and when she went to one of her doctors she found many reasons for this - please keep her in your thoughts and prayers. Hopefully with consultations with other doctors something can be done to remedy this. While waiting to get her chemo treatment on the 6th, she heard a nurse call the name of "Robert". When Robert replied she thought she recognized his voice as that of Bob Klaben. Sure enough it was. When she went into the infusion room she stopped and shook Bob's hand and talked with him for a minute. He said he was going to go dancing that night - with that good spirit, he might be dancing in the near future. We have missed Bob, an honorary and charter me! mber of CNYBA, and I'm sure mail to Peck Road, Syracuse, NY 13209 would help brighten his day.

Last month I neglected to put in the following email I received from Robert Macon, grandson the Uncle Dave Macon regarding Uncle Dave's great-grandson Paul whom I wrote about when he was undergoing treatment for cancer. "I wish to thank everyone for your reply to all my messages and more especially for your prayers and concern during my treatment. My appointment on July 1st resulted with a good report. I am released from treatment center, back to my primary doctor in Springfield TN. No repeat, no trace of cancer tumor could be found and now in remission stage. This was wonderful news and I appreciate all your support. The parting words from my doctor were "Support of family and friends is 50% of the healing process. Again thank you." God Bless, Paul. During Paul's long treatment period his wish was to be well enough to be able to attend Uncle Dave Macon Days in July - and he did - truly a happy ending!

I got several new memberships at the festival and received one on an application from our website from Ryan M Smith of Syracuse, who wrote: "I grew up on bluegrass near Rochester, just started grad school here and am looking for some like-minded people and places to play." He can be reached at 315-427-0491 or Hope some of you players will give him a call or email and invite him to your jam sessions. Thanks.

Sharon Volles called to let us know that Norm's father, Harry, passed away. Expressions of sympathy can be sent to 3780 Otisco Road, Marietta, NY 13110.

On July 26th, CNYBA lost a longtime member, Gerald Pettit. Until health problems prevented him from getting out, Gerry always attended our meetings, activities and I have fond memories of him visiting my late husband Dick when he too could no longer get out. Just another example of how we are all one big family - there for each other.

As you know, the last of the Country Music Performers Quiz was in our July/August issue, and like the rest, "Soc" Nellis was the only reply with all correct but one - #42, he left our Archie Campbell. I'm not going to bother tyo give the answers as am sure they meant nothing except to "Soc". Thanks "Soc" for your participation as it made this endeavor for Loren and myself worth the effort. I'm working on a prize for you!! He also expressed his regrets for not being able to join us for our activities and kind thoughts for Thayle (which I passed on to her).

Lastly, but far from least, Thank You to each of you who came to the table to say "Hi", introduce yourself, and express such kind words regarding my Ramblin'- as I told each of you I enjoy doing it when I have something to write about and I sure had plenty for this one.....the cards given to me by Olive Loucks and Betty Jane Windhausen will be put to good use, and the notepaper sent over from the flea market will also be used.

As I bring this "visit " to a close, I can think of several more things I should have mentioned regarding the festival, so watch for more next month. See you in Cato on Sept 14th.

Until next time, remember: You don't quit trying when you lose because you quit trying...think about this...



Watertown Goes Blue!
Bluegrass Music That Is!
OCTOBER 3, 4,& 5 - 
Ramada Inn Arsenal St. Watertown  

Friday Night: Open Mic in the bar lounge - Host Band 'GRASS CREEK'
12:00 Noon Mandolin workshop (Dave Nichols)
1:00 PM Fiddle workshop (Agnes McCarthy)
2:00 PM     Guitar Construction (D. Nichols)
2:30 PM Youth Fiddle Contest
4:00 PM Invited Bluegrass Guests: Mohawk Valley Bluegrass, Ottowa Valley Bluegrass, Central N.Y. Bluegrass
9:00 PM Open Mic   
1:30 AM Gospel Time w/GRASS CREEK & the TIBPS SINGERS
12:00 Noon Banjo workshop (Richard Hood)
Concert Schedule

This event is made possible, in part, by funding from the N.Y. State Council on the Arts Decentralization Program, administered in Jefferson, Lewis, & St. Lawrence Counties by the North Country Library System.

Ramada Inn (315 788-0700) have special Bluegrass Rates!! 

For more info - call (315 639-6979) or (315 658-2679)


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